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June 1998 Bulletin

Contents:

The  White Paper

New  Prescription Forms

Valuation  of Surgery Premises

Nursing  Homes - Death Certificates & Undertakers

GOS  18

Patients Own Medicines

Violent  Patients

Partial  Post Natal Care Fees

Benefits Agency Doctors

Nomad  Prescribing

Voting arrangements in LMC Organised elections

From the LMCs

The  White Paper & PCGs

Attached to this Bulletin you  will find details of the outcome of the GMSC

negotiations with Mr. Alan Milburn, the Minister for Health. It also shows clearly the pathway of certain of the funding which is very important to GPs continued existence.

In Summary:

We must accept that PCGs will  happen. No government with a majority of 180 will fail to get its proposals through. The correct course of action, was therefore, for the GMSC to negotiate the terms which would best protect GP interests. I believe they  have done this. It may not be "Peace in our Time", but it could possibly  mean that there will be no outright war between the profession and the  government. Time will tell. In particular at the LMC Conference, which  is due to take place a week ahead of when I am writing this Bulletin.

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New  Prescription Forms

The concept of having Prescription Forms numbered has obvious advantages from the point of view of preventing  misuse of prescriptions and in the case of their loss. This is the logic behind having the numbered Prescription Forms which are now being issued to GP's surgeries.

It is reasonable for GPs, or their staff, to certify that they are in fact receiving the numbered forms which the HA purport to be giving them. This will enable a check to be kept on any pads which go missing from that consecutive set.

Misunderstandings occurred however about the degree to which practices have to account for odd prescriptions  which have either been miswritten or somehow rendered inappropriate for  transmission through the dispensing system.

There is no requirement  for the practice to keep extensive records of individual prescriptions  which are wasted.

The sole point of keeping a  record is to ensure that when the prescription leaves the doctor's surgery it is in such a form that it is appropriate for dispensing and that any  theft of prescriptions is ascertainable from the overall total which the doctor has received. The bureaucratic effort which would be involved in noting every occasion on which a prescription is not in some way properly completed would result in a huge amount of unnecessary work, which would  serve no useful purpose i.e. entirely against the principle of "Patients not Paper".

Practices therefore need not feel guilty about not recording individual prescriptions which are destroyed,  providing they are satisfied they have been adequately destroyed.

Any audit which may be carried out by the PPA would be a matter of negotiation with the profession and there is no statutory requirement whatsoever for practices to be unnecessarily bureaucratic about the management of their FP10 prescription stocks.

Valuation  of Surgery Premises

Notional Rent repayment for  premises

not held under cost rent are made by submission of the Prem. 1 form. This is rendered in triplicate every 3 years. This is then sent to the District Valuer who is required to value the property at the current market rent for what is effectively  "office" premises in that area. This then forms the figure upon which  the offer of reimbursement of rent is made to the practice.

It is important that practices do not presume that because the District Valuer has given a value there  is no Appeal procedure.

Some times there is discrepancy  between what the District Valuer assesses as the market value, and the  value the practice feels should be placed on the surgery. In that event it is open to the practice to appeal the rent. If practices require assistance in doing this, the LMC does have recommendations on Surveyors who are skilled in this work and accordingly could give a reliable opinion.

This is an essential first step in any Appeal procedure against the valuation placed by the District Valuer, since without the opinion of an expert behind you, it will not  be possible to negotiate from strength to increase the value of the surgery  premises for rent purposes.

Anyone having any doubts about it is invited to contact me at the office and I will assist them in any way I can.

 

Nursing  Homes Death Certification & Undertakers

It is unfortunately becoming increasingly common for both Nursing and Residential Homes and on occasion, undertakers to ask a doctor to attend to establish the fact of death OOH. This is something which may well be, and often is, linked with the production by the doctor of a Certificate of Death, but the two are quite separate activities.

Establishment of the fact of death is acceptable by any lay person, providing they are satisfied and can

perform the necessary simple tests to demonstrate death has occurred.

Accordingly, one would expect  nurses in Nursing Homes and in fact in some circumstances, care assistants  to be in a position to establish the fact that death has occurred. It should also, in view of their great experience, be possible for undertakers  to carry out a check to ensure that there has been no error.

No one is suggesting that doctors  will not be called in most cases in order to provide a Certificate and  at the same time establish the fact of death. However, it must be understood  that there is no need for a doctor to be called in the middle of the night to attest the fact of death before a person may be removed from a Nursing or Residential Home to an undertaker at their rooms of repose, especially if the death is fully expected.

Doctors have been expressing concern recently that Nursing Homes do not seem to realise that death, once it occurs, it not an immediate medical emergency. It is perfectly reasonable for the doctor to indicate that they will attend if they think it appropriate the next day, or even certify without the necessity of seeing the body if they are happy that the death was entirely expected. I must stress that it is the GP's responsibility to make these decisions,  not that of the Nursing Home proprietor.

It would be even more helpful  if the Nursing Homes forbore from ringing doctors in the middle of the night in order to even discuss this matter, since doctors already have  quite enough to do with the medical emergencies in the living, without attending to unnecessary calls at night for matters which could very well be left to the next morning.

Should doctors find themselves troubled in this way, I invite them to let me know at the LMC Office and I will see what I can do about speaking directly to the Homes concerned.

GOS  18

This form is used by Ophthalmic  Medical Practitioners and sometimes optometrists to refer patients back  to their GP where they have been found to have possible eye disease.

The essence of the form is to allow the GP to contribute details of the systemic medical condition before onward transmission to the Specialist of the GP's choice. On occasions, however, the GP will decide that it is not appropriate for the patient  to be referred immediately and the matter is held in abeyance. An example of this might be a very early cataract, correctly referred back by the  OMP, but felt by the GP not to merit Out Patient referral, until it becomes  more mature.

It appears that quite a lot  of these forms are being despatched by OMPs, but then disappearing into some sort of limbo. The patients are not always appearing at the Specialists and formal notification is not being made to the OMP that a decision has  been taken by the GP not to refer the patient for any Specialist opinion.

Obviously if the patient's welfare is being adequately dealt with there is no intrinsic problem, but there is a worry that perhaps patients are "slipping through the net"  and even that referrals may not be being made, which are appropriate.

 

In Portsmouth area they are  proposing to do an Audit of GOS18 forms to see what is happening to them and how far the system can be improved. Should you be in any way involved in this, it is hoped you will give your full co-operation so that what  it is intrinsically a good system, can be re-examined to ensure that the best parts are retained and any unnecessary bureaucracy is excluded.

In the meanwhile practices may wish to:

  • review their present policy  (if any) on GOS18 action
  • try to ensure that the OMP is always aware of GP decisions
  • let the LMC know of any  amendments to the system that they feel would be helpful

Patients'  Own Medicines

Portsmouth LMC recently had  a discussion with Dr Ann Dowd the Consultant Geriatrician in the Portsmouth  HealthCare Trust. She has developed a system whereby patients' medications brought with them to hospital, instead of being destroyed, were used for that patient where possible and then returned with the patient when they were discharged home.

There had been problems originally when schemes like this were suggested in that pharmacists were pointing  out the lack of detailed knowledge of the actual state of those medicines, such that they could not be put into any sort of ward stock. Accordingly, it became the habit for all medicines on entry to be destroyed. The level  of waste is quite obvious and the savings which have resulted from the  initial workings of this scheme, which has only been run for a short time, is upwards of £33,000 per year.

The scheme may be further developed  and used as a test of the ability of the elderly person to manage their  own medication and the observation of how accurate they are about their medication, would be a useful source of information for GPs. It is also  thought that this might be possibly applicable to the Acute Wards of the hospital, though the stays there tend to be shorter and savings may be commensurately less.

It is hoped that this good idea could be rolled out to other areas of Hampshire and people who wish  to have more information on this, or would like to raise it with their own hospital units, please get in touch with the Office and I will be  able to give you further details.

 

Violent  Patients

GPs know that if a patient is violent or threatens violence to the doctor or staff their name may be removed from the registered list immediately. The only requirement  on the GP would be to provide immediately necessary treatment and even then only in circumstances which guaranteed the safety of the GP &  staff.

What is not widely known is  that a temporary resident effectively becomes one of the doctor's registered patients and in the event of a temporary resident behaving in a way which  gives similar cause for concern, they may also be removed under the same regulation.

The important thing here is  that if the temporary resident patient is removed in this way, their name  will be entered on the list of violent patients, and some record kept of their movements and activity.

I know that in Winchester particularly there are problems with itinerants who can plague the surgeries, and at  the moment we have not got a clear understanding of who these people are.  If you do have such a temporary resident, please do notify the HA so that we may better find ways of controlling what is a totally unacceptable situation.

Partial  Post Natal Care Fees

This vexed question continues  to rumble on. One thing which would be useful is for midwives who carry  out visits on GP patients to keep some sort of clear record, and perhaps even for this to be recorded in the notes of the patient, so that a check  may be made of when exactly visits are performed.

The LMC is still working hard  to clarify this whole situation, but do not in any way wish to disturb the increasingly common arrangement of team working between midwives and GPs.

Benefits Agency Doctors

Any doctors who do work for  the Benefits Agency and are invited to sign the new contract which has been provided by SEMA, are advised to contact the LMC for further advice.

The BMA at present is advising against signing this contract since there are very serious concerns about  these contracts which do not appear to provide proper professional Terms  of Service. The BMA is actively negotiating on this matter at present  and up to date information can be obtained from the office.

Nomad  Prescribing

This system of controlled dispensing,  which is often utilized with patients who need assistance in coping with  often large numbers of medications taken at different times, is giving problems.

When it was originally introduced, largely on the initiative of the Pharmacists, it was done without any form of remuneration being payable to the Pharmacists for the extra dispensing  work involved.

This has now reached the stage where the systems are becoming so common that the Pharmacists are finding this to be a significant drain upon their dispensing time.

The only recourse that has been considered at the present time is increased frequency of prescribing to offer in the form of dispensing fees extra remuneration to Pharmacists  for the extra work involved.

Unfortunately this has meant that on some occasions doctors were being approached and asked to prescribe  as frequently as every week. This is obviously unacceptable, since the  surgery system would break down, were this to be followed universally.

A reasonable compromise should be negotiated wherever possible. Subject to the overriding consideration  that prescribing should be for sufficient medication and for a time which is felt by the doctor to be clinically appropriate for that particular  condition. It is not a matter of a Pharmacist indicating that they expect  prescribing for a particular period to suit the convenience of Nomad prescribing. It is also the case that the doctor must understand that the Pharmacist is providing this service very largely for no fee and that if it is possible  to reach a compromise arrangement with your individual pharmacist, this  is by far the best course of action.

As in all these things, although the rights and duties of each side are clearly laid down, progress is usually best made by negotiation and reasoned discussion about what could be helpful to both professions and yet safeguard and improve the interest of the patient.

If the LMC office can be of  assistance in facilitating any such information exchange, we will be glad  to do so.

Voting arrangements in LMC organised elections

There has been some concern  expressed in one area when doctors who were invited to vote in an election  were asked to use a ballot paper on which their name is recorded and to  countersign with their own signature once the vote had been cast. This is standard practice for LMCs in order to ensure that only eligible voters have in fact completed the form. Perish the thought, but it has been known for one partner in the practice, who may well be oldest to take it upon themselves to enter votes on behalf of partners without individually consulting them. As a result the LMC insists on clear authentication of every vote.

Confidentiality in Parliamentary voting is not absolute and I am sure that everyone is aware that it is perfectly simple for the Returning Officer to identify from a voting slip issued, exactly who voted in what way. Obviously, the LMC system would make it even easier to tie up an individual vote with an individual voter,  but the advantages of ensuring that the voter's real preferences are recorded,  is felt to be absolutely vital.

The votes, when they are received  at the LMC office are dealt with entirely by the Returning Officer, Mr. Nigel Richardson, the Administrator. He keeps these records totally confidentially and he does not even normally share them with the LMC Secretary. Only in the event of there being some dispute as to whether the vote is indeed a valid one and whether it should be disallowed and not count in the final result, would the LMC Secretary become involved. If that were the case  it may even be that clarification is sought from the voter who is identified  on the form to ascertain their true intentions.

After the election is completed  and the results have been formally agreed, these ballot papers are destroyed  in a confidential way and no list or record is kept of the voting pattern  which may have occurred.

I think it would be extremely  dangerous to move away from a system which allowed authentication of the individual voter's signature, since often elections are decided by a small  number of votes and any uncertainties as to whether the true intentions  of the voter have been adequately represented, would call into question the whole democratic structure under which the voting took place.

Should any GPs have ideas which  might provide equal security and avoid the necessity for the individual identification, I would be very interested to hear about them, but the  LMCs at present do not intend to change the system unless there is clear  reason for doing so and an equal degree of security can be guaranteed.

 There  has been a change in the Officers of the LMC in Portsmouth. Dr Jim Warner  has now retired as Chairman and elected in his place is Steve McKenning. The new Vice Chairman for Portsmouth is David Melville.

Both Southampton & Portsmouth  have under their new Committees agreed to invite to the Open Meetings the Chief Officer of their CHC. It is important that the CHC is felt to  be contributing to patient care and in this new area of co-operative NHS  working, it is hoped that such contacts will facilitate closer working  in future for the benefit of patients. Attached to this Bulletin is an  article by Mick Rolfe.

The LMCs in Hampshire have discussed among other things recently:

  • The development of a new formula for the allocation of computer reimbursements from HAs.
  • The inappropriateness of the prescribing of Methotrexate and its 1 - M administration in general  practice in most cases.
  • The necessity for Ritalin  to be considered a Specialist Drug provided only in secondary care.
  • The withdrawal of Methadone  prescribing from general medical services and the encouragement of its  provision as a specialist service, either with specialist GPs, or through a Drug Advisory Service.
  • A Virement project to allow  funding for secondary care expensive drugs to be top sliced from prescribing  allocations and the responsibility firmly placed with the specialist secondary care.
  • The monitoring standards for OOH care for Co-ops and commercial deputising services.
  • All LMCs keep a watching brief on GMS cash limit usage and negotiate with HAs.
  • White Paper and PCG activity which varies in its intensity and detail across all the areas.
  • Motions for the LMC Conference to take place 25th/26th June 1998.
  • The question of Study Leave  for Trainers and whether this should be an extra week automatically  for everybody.
  • In Portsmouth co-operative working with the CHC on analysis of Mental Health Services.
  • Others matters which are often individual to the LMCs concerned, dealing with problems which individual constituents have brought to the attention of the Committee.

Should you wish to discuss any of these matters or find out what your LMC has done in more detail,  then you are invited to contact your constituency representative.


Chief Executive - Dr R I Button

12 Southgate Street
Winchester
Hants SO23 9EF
Tel: - 01962 867793
Fax: - 01962 841867
E-mail:
office@wessexlmcs.com

 

 

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